EU Brexit - How will you vote given the latest "news"

[Midwest]

See there's an e petition, for a second EU referendum :wink5:

 

[silverfox1]

Well that's ok then. South Korea will consider giving us something we already have as a member of the EU.

Andy I know the establishment and big money corporations will do whatever they can to keep the status quo but we had the vote and are supposedly leaving the EU, until article 50 is invoked we are still in the EU, I know many can't accept the vote (seems younger people think the older voters are not entitled to there say ) that comment is not pointed at you Andy but social media is full of it, as it stands if we do eventually start negotiations and the EU play hard ball over access to the single market or trade deals its nice to see we could start negotiating trade deals immediately.
As I have mentioned before in my posts the economy was never uppermost in my consideration of how I would vote it was always about democracy and the power of our own parliament to make decisions for Britain. I may be writing you a grovelling apology for voting leave in 2 years time Andy but I am optimistic.

 

[Andy78]

See there's an e petition, for a second EU referendum :wink5:

Which Farage will be backing all the way in the interests of fairness, won't he ?

Nigel Farage said 52-48 votes should lead to a second referendum | Metro News

 

[andyb]

Andy I know the establishment and big money corporations will do whatever they can to keep the status quo but we had the vote and are supposedly leaving the EU, until article 50 is invoked we are still in the EU, I know many can't accept the vote (seems younger people think the older voters are not entitled to there say ) that comment is not pointed at you Andy but social media is full of it, as it stands if we do eventually start negotiations and the EU play hard ball over access to the single market or trade deals its nice to see we could start negotiating trade deals immediately.
As I have mentioned before in my posts the economy was never uppermost in my consideration of how I would vote it was always about democracy and the power of our own parliament to make decisions for Britain. I may be writing you a grovelling apology for voting leave in 2 years time Andy but I am optimistic.

I fully accept the vote Silver and I'm against another referendum, if they have one I'll be voting out. The people have spoken and that should be that.
The moaning from the younger generation blaming the older generation is muddled thinking on their part. The under 24s voted 73% remain and there's a lot more of them than oldies, they had it in their gift to stay in. All they had to do was turn up and vote. The ones bleating about it should be blaming their peers.
I don't think there will be any need for grovelling apologies in a couple of years, I've never put this country down and always said that we'll do well outside the EU, I just happen to think we're better of in.
I am worried about the UK breaking up though.

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[silverfox1]

Andyb

Watching tv last night they spoke to some Scottish people who pointed out that "Nicola Sturgeon wants another vote for Scottish independence from the rest of the UK only to join 27 other countries in the EU what sort of independence is that" which I thought was a good point, it seems maybe the people who voted for independence from the UK before may not vote the same with the prospect of joining the EU looming.

Also I believe the SNP do not have a majority in the Scottish parliament so she would need the OK from British parliament or another Scottish election to see if SNP can win a majority to be able to run another referendum.

 

[andyb]

Andyb

Watching tv last night they spoke to some Scottish people who pointed out that "Nicola Sturgeon wants another vote for Scottish independence from the rest of the UK only to join 27 other countries in the EU what sort of independence is that" which I thought was a good point, it seems maybe the people who voted for independence from the UK before may not vote the same with the prospect of joining the EU looming.

Also I believe the SNP do not have a majority in the Scottish parliament so she would need the OK from British parliament or another Scottish election to see if SNP can win a majority to be able to run another referendum.

All you say is true Silver, but an issue that was put to bed not 2 years ago is now up and running again. Also there are moves in N Ireland re unification, unlikely to happen but another divisive distraction we could well do without.


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[tomspark93]

It would be a shame if we weren't a United Kingdom anymore, as at the end of the day it was all a joint effort to vote out. I just think we've made our bed and now we need to lay in it. I think a second referendum would be silly, how far do you go? Best of three?

 

[Andy78]

It would be a shame if we weren't a United Kingdom anymore, as at the end of the day it was all a joint effort to vote out. I just think we've made our bed and now we need to lay in it. I think a second referendum would be silly, how far do you go? Best of three?

Not really. NI and Scotland voted in. If their wishes are not met by the new arrangement do you not think it would be slightly hypocritical of the UK to expect them to remain in a union given the independence led nature of the EU referendum ?

 

[tomspark93]

Regardless of whether they voted in, WE as a United Kingdom voted out. I understand what your saying though and I wouldn't begrudge them of having a referendum.

 

[Midwest]

Regardless of whether they voted in, WE as a United Kingdom voted out. I understand what your saying though and I wouldn't begrudge them of having a referendum.

The problem with 'WE', is the vote was very close, less than 4%. Therefore, you will have some, like Scotland wanting a different course. In the rest of the UK, only half the population are happy with the result. Its pretty much divided the country.

 

[andyb]

See there's an e petition, for a second EU referendum :wink5:

The petition was started in May by a vote leave campaigner when he thought the result would be remain. It's got over 3m signatures, bet he's chuffed now.

http://metro.co.uk/2016/06/26/the-p...was-started-by-a-right-wing-activist-5967021/

 

[Midwest]

The petition was started in May by a vote leave campaigner when he thought the result would be remain. It's got over 3m signatures, bet he's chuffed now.

Petition for second EU referendum started by a right-wing activist | Metro News

What a chuckle; fortunately for him, it won't change things.

 

[Spoon]

seems younger people think the older voters are not entitled to there say

I had this from a young lass. Apparently she thought that the young had move of a vote cause they had longer to live with the result. I did suggest that maybe the older people should have more of a vote then cause they have financially contributed more than the young ones. She shut up after that.

Andy has a very good point about the young voters. It said on the news there there was a 'low turn out' for the younger voters. I can't find any actual figures of what age groups actually turned out to vote but it sounds like less than 50% of 18-24 years old's turned out to vote, even though the ones that did 75% voted to say in.

If anyone has any info on the turn out of the different ages I would be interested to see it.

 

[andyb]

From Iain Duncan Smith on the Andrew Marr show this morning
''Our promises were a series of possibilities''

This after Farage said on Friday morning that the 350m NHS pledge was a mistake.

Great, nothing like the truth after the event.

 

[Marvo]

Well the vote is over and a new chapter is started for the UK. I've closed this thread which was specifically about the vote so please feel free to comment about the aftermath in other relevant threads that are running.

Thanks.