NICEIC Certification Scheme NICEIC renewal assessment debacle!

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Go public on twitter and even write to your local paper they love a sad face article...
I have been fortunate to have had a really good assessor the last few years, top bloke and sensible. seems he is a rarity.
If needed name the assessor as he will hate that, the niceic will hate the name being banded about and when he monas to his bosses they will then ask why...
Of course a better idea if they havent yet taken payment by direct debit is to cancel it, when accounts phone asking why they will soon get the decision makers involved and tell them once this is sorted you will reinstate direct debit. they will bend over backwards for your money.
My assessor told me that once deemed competent by the NICEIC on assessment the UKAS rules actually state they cant then deem you incompetent so it is actually very very difficult to kick somebody out the NICEIC. all they can do is further assessment visits. to deem you incompetent has a very high threshold as its open to legal challenge, hence why its literally unheard of for somebody to get kicked out the NICEIC.

If you wanted to switch to NAPIT its a very easy process and they will be glad to help you if you give them a call.

I've looked into NAPIT. It seems to me to be just more of the same with less notoriety and slightly less for your money. Part of me thinks better the devil you know but I'm not going to conned out of £415.00. What to do!
I'm not on twitter believe it or not. Nor Facebook nor any other. Too busy on electricians forums for all that!

 

[UNG]

I've looked into NAPIT. It seems to me to be just more of the same with less notoriety and slightly less for your money. Part of me thinks better the devil you know but I'm not going to conned out of £415.00. What to do!
I'm not on twitter believe it or not. Nor Facebook nor any other. Too busy on electricians forums for all that!

Not sure what you actually mean by your statement, yes the NICEIC seems to have a higher profile as to whether you get less for your money with NAPIT because they have a lower profile will no doubt be open to debate one thing is clear that both organisations have some rogue contractors as members as can regularly be seen in some of the posts on here.
The one thing that can be said for both is that they have a love of other peoples money

 

[sparksfly]

Try UKAS the NICEIC are one of their accredited organisations

If you have the money and procedures in place it seems anyone can be UKAS accredited. There is no umbrella as such overseeing these schemes/organisations from an electrical industry perspective. Anyone can have a complaints procedure but it can go nowhere.
I may write all of the electrical schemes/organisations on an umbrella, over my head in a thunderstorm, while wearing green tights, holding onto "little John" (earth rod) and see, after a strike, what all the letters scattered on the ground amount to.....
If I survive, it may spell out a new scheme or a brilliant David Bowie posthumous lyric.

 

[swaRRR]

When he gets home at night his fat and psychopathic wife thrashes him within inches of his life

 

[Doogsparky]

The NICEIC extra half day assessment is a scam to effectively almost double the annual membership fee without openly doing it officially.
The “full day” assessment never lasts a day usually just half a day.
The justification for the extra half day used to be, if there was a major non conformance found on the previous assessment then a full day assessment was warranted the following year, having been an AC for 14 years now and no adverse comments on the assessment form of any kind for several years now, We‘re still billed for an extra half day, I query it every year and every year get fobbed off by customer services.
The latest conversation was when we asked the reason for a full day, the response was an AC requires a full day assessment for the scope of the scheme, when we asked why this isn’t reflected in the annual membership fee of £1000 which it basically is now instead of the £600 annual membership fee before the additional £414.00 half day, the response was err but some AC‘s don’t require a full day, a complete and immediate contradiction! NAPIT I believe advertise (or used to) that they don’t charge for an additional half day on assessments which is one reason why I believe NICEIC don’t openly state the real costs as most hard working electricians would vote with their feet and not support getting screwed every year.