Rogue Landlord Encounters

[LukeD]

A leaking top, good grief, get off your butt and do something about it your self.

And thats the issue in the Uk it seems .landlords seem to think they hold the cards and everyone is there to just pay the rent or get removed . As long as people dont fight for or demand their rights etc .Its going to get worse .

 

[Mike Johnson]

And tenants seem to think they can call the landlord just because a screw has come loose on a door, I know who I think has a loose screw.

 

[DPG]

And thats the issue in the Uk it seems .landlords seem to think they hold the cards and everyone is there to just pay the rent or get removed . As long as people dont fight for or demand their rights etc .Its going to get worse .

And again, you are making sweeping statements about groups of people.

 

[DPG]

I heard a landlord once who got so fed up with the renters so what he did was, he shoved himself up a chimney

Ah the old 'climb up the chimney trick'.

 

[LukeD]

And again, you are making sweeping statements about groups of people.

yes..... And from my experiences in London I am right . many many landlords are doing all they can to evade their responsibilities and to hold tenants at ransom . And MANY been from certain parts of society that seem to naturally evade anything legal ! Also landlords Borrowing against the income and then wanting the tenant to pay those costs as well . The whole rental market needs better control . Its a joke at the moment .

 

[littlespark]

You started off with UK landlords.... then London.... Any particular area? Street?

I'm with DPG... Its not all landlords

 

[LukeD]

You started off with UK landlords.... then London.... Any particular area? Street?

I'm with DPG... Its not all landlords

Not all ...And you know that .......! But I am seeing and hearing a lot more about bad landlords. It seems clever ones have sold their properties and moved their money into something a little less easier to deal with .Now the laws and tax thing is making life harder for them . And those that are left,many seem to be getting greedier by the day . And its all down to lack of control and councils not been too worried . Sure you get feckless tenants that think a light bulb has to be changed or they can really start changing decor etc etc . But combine in useless management agencies who hire in the lowest of the lowest to carry out repairs . Its all a race to the bottom in many cases . Landlords should also be vetted and have to supply references from previous tenants .Also a tenant should be able to see if the landlord is having any issues paying the mortgage etc . Why should all the "due diligence " be a one way street .Ive known many tenants have banks turning up etc to say they now own the property (Which tends to work out fine ) as the landlord over cooked their spendings and responsibility . But imagine after 8 months you find the landlord has taken the rent and not paid the mortgage and you might be facing issues .

 

[Mike Johnson]

Not all ...And you know that .......! But I am seeing and hearing a lot more about bad landlords. It seems clever ones have sold their properties and moved their money into something a little less easier to deal with .

Now that I don't understand.]

I am hearing more and more about rouge tenants taking advantage of decent landlords and the rules laid down by local authorities, using racist and asylum excuse's.

This seems to be a very a-motive subject for @LukeD is this personal experience or all second hand knowledge?

 

[LukeD]

Now that I don't understand.]

I am hearing more and more about rouge tenants taking advantage of decent landlords and the rules laid down by local authorities, using racist and asylum excuse's.

This seems to be a very a-motive subject for @LukeD is this personal experience or all second hand knowledge?

Are the experiences you mention personal or all second hand knowledge ?

 

[Pretty Mouth]

A leaking top, good grief, get off your butt and do something about it your self.

And tenants seem to think they can call the landlord just because a screw has come loose on a door, I know who I think has a loose screw.

Presumably you think you have a right to receive 100% of the rent, while expecting your tenants to carry out your maintenance for you?

 

[LukeD]

Presumably you think you have a right to receive 100% of the rent, while expecting your tenants to carry out your maintenance for you?

Exactly !! The maintenance of the property is the landlords responsibility and also tend to be mentioned in the contracts that a tenant must notify them of any issues . Light bulbs etc unless they are at a height that require a large ladder to replace are NOT the landlords responsibility .etc . Yes there are many scum tenants .But as mentioned by someone else many have the full set of "Wacist cards etc " to throw on the table and use against good or bad landlords. THis could be part of the current issue we see in the media now about people unhappy about the level of immigration and the types we are letting in . So many other European countries do the "letting" business better than us by a long way and both sides win. In the UK its a mess . Muammer Gaddafi who was a great leader (Dont believe the west media !) solved many issues in Libya By removing renting . Overnight all tenants became the legal owners of the property and the "old owners" where paid the market value of the property . You then had a society who where not worried about keeping a roof over their head .


By this time next year we will see a major issue in the housing market and those made homeless might not be getting nice warm hotels like these "Economic migrants" are getting !

 

[DPG]

Exactly !! The maintenance of the property is the landlords responsibility and also tend to be mentioned in the contracts that a tenant must notify them of any issues . Light bulbs etc unless they are at a height that require a large ladder to replace are NOT the landlords responsibility .etc . Yes there are many scum tenants .But as mentioned by someone else many have the full set of "Wacist cards etc " to throw on the table and use against good or bad landlords. THis could be part of the current issue we see in the media now about people unhappy about the level of immigration and the types we are letting in . So many other European countries do the "letting" business better than us by a long way and both sides win. In the UK its a mess . Muammer Gaddafi who was a great leader (Dont believe the west media !) solved many issues in Libya By removing renting . Overnight all tenants became the legal owners of the property and the "old owners" where paid the market value of the property . You then had a society who where not worried about keeping a roof over their head .


By this time next year we will see a major issue in the housing market and those made homeless might not be getting nice warm hotels like these "Economic migrants" are getting !

So he suddenly gave houses to people who hadn't bought them? For free?

So then they can live there for free, but the rest of the people still have to pay their mortgage every month?

Something not quite right there I feel.

 

[LukeD]

So he suddenly gave houses to people who hadn't bought them? For free?

So then they can live there for free, but the rest of the people still have to pay their mortgage every month?

Something not quite right there I feel.

The owners as I mentioned where paid the market value . Also in 78 there was no real "Mortgage " system in Libya . He also paid for all education for any national studying abroad (and related costs ) and the best medical treatment anywhere in the world. But thanks to the the USA getting upset with him The USA Called on their "minions" to destroy Gaddafi . So be very careful what you read about him . he had some faults .But he was a great leader .

 

[DPG]

The owners as I mentioned where paid the market value . Also in 78 there was no real "Mortgage " system in Libya . He also paid for all education for any national studying abroad (and related costs ) and the best medical treatment anywhere in the world. But thanks to the the USA getting upset with him The USA Called on their "minions" to destroy Gaddafi . So be very careful what you read about him . he had some faults .But he was a great leader .

You said the tenants were made legal owners of the property. So presumably they were either given it for free, or they were forced to pay for it.

 

[LukeD]

You said the tenants were made legal owners of the property. So presumably they were either given it for free, or they were forced to pay for it.

Gaddafi made it law that anyone living in a rented property would become the FULL legal owner of that property and it was FREE. The "original " owner was then paid the market value for the property . Also things like Business loans where made interest free etc etc .TO help build the economy . Ive been there a few times and Loved the place.

 

[DPG]

Gaddafi made it law that anyone living in a rented property would become the FULL legal owner of that property and it was FREE. The "original " owner was then paid the market value for the property . Also things like Business loans where made interest free etc etc .TO help build the economy . Ive been there a few times and Loved the place.

Yes, so back to my original comment then - people who were renting got a free house, but everyone else had had to pay for theirs. I don’t see how that's a fair system.

 

[LukeD]

Yes, so back to my original comment then - people who were renting got a free house, but everyone else had had to pay for theirs. I don’t see how that's a fair system.

True...But its possible the ones who owned their homes might be richer and have had business loans etc .So they benefitted by having the costs of loans removed. Gaddafi made laws to try and benefit everyone . . Name another country that would pay for a citizen to be flown to the UK /France etc for the best private medical treatment and the state would pay the bill ! Gaddafi 's idea was if you feed everyone , some for sure might get lobster and some might only get lamb and rice. But at least everyone feels they are better off .

 

[DPG]

True...But its possible the ones who owned their homes might be richer and have had business loans etc .So they benefitted by having the costs of loans removed. Gaddafi made laws to try and benefit everyone . . Name another country that would pay for a citizen to be flown to the UK /France etc for the best private medical treatment and the state would pay the bill ! Gaddafi 's idea was if you feed everyone , some for sure might get lobster and some might only get lamb and rice. But at least everyone feels they are better off .

As you say, it is 'possible' that some of them 'might' have been richer people. But by and large most home owners will be average people working for a living. Not really fair that someone who has just paid a bit of rent then gets a free house, when the other people have to pay full price for theirs.

I suspect there is more to how it worked to be honest. Otherwise there would be uproar I would have thought.

 

[Mike Johnson]

I suspect there is more to how it worked to be honest. Otherwise there would be uproar I would have thought.

You mean protests under a Gaddaffi regime?

 

[DPG]

You mean protests under a Gaddaffi regime?

He's a decent feller apparently

 

[Mike Johnson]

His five point plan:

On 16 April 1973, Gaddafi proclaimed the start of a "Popular Revolution" in a speech at Zuwarah.[151] He initiated this with a five-point plan, the first point of which dissolved all existing laws, to be replaced by revolutionary enactments. The second point proclaimed that all opponents of the revolution had to be removed, while the third initiated an administrative revolution that Gaddafi proclaimed would remove all traces of bureaucracy and the bourgeoisie. The fourth point announced that the population must form People's Committees and be armed to defend the revolution, while the fifth proclaimed the beginning of the Cultural Revolution in Libya, to expunge the country of "poisonous" foreign influences.[152] He began to lecture on this new phase of the revolution in Libya, Egypt, and France.[153] As a process, it had many similarities with the Cultural Revolution implemented in China.[154]